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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Feb 25 @ 8:50 AM ET
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brienstel
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.21.2011

Feb 25 @ 8:51 AM ET
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znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 10.02.2014

Feb 25 @ 8:52 AM ET
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- brienstel


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znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 10.02.2014

Feb 25 @ 8:54 AM ET
Only thing I want out of Toronto is JVR.

Sutter + Dumoulin/Harrington + Bennett + a pick next year for JVR.

Lupul could be an alright pick up, although he is more brittle than brittle Beau, and cost 5 times more than him and is 31.
deadmau5
St Louis Blues
Location: i will jmatchett you before you can say sorry, MA
Joined: 10.28.2010

Feb 25 @ 8:54 AM ET
Another soft player for this soft team
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Feb 25 @ 8:54 AM ET
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- znagle

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usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Feb 25 @ 8:56 AM ET
Only thing I want out of Toronto is JVR.

Sutter + Dumoulin/Harrington + Bennett + a pick next year for JVR.

Lupul could be an alright pick up, although he is more brittle than brittle Beau, and cost 5 times more than him and is 31.

- znagle

Same. I dont think your offer would work though. We need depth and that would remove two bottom six guys. I'd look into that in the offseason though.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Feb 25 @ 8:58 AM ET
Only thing I want out of Toronto is JVR.

Sutter + Dumoulin/Harrington + Bennett + a pick next year for JVR.

Lupul could be an alright pick up, although he is more brittle than brittle Beau, and cost 5 times more than him and is 31.

- znagle


Hell no on Lupul.

Two players having miserable years, unproven prospects and a pick is not nearly enough for JVR. Why would they move him anyway? He'd be one of very few players on that team that they should keep.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Feb 25 @ 9:00 AM ET
Only thing I want out of Toronto is JVR.

Sutter + Dumoulin/Harrington + Bennett + a pick next year for JVR.

Lupul could be an alright pick up, although he is more brittle than brittle Beau, and cost 5 times more than him and is 31.

- znagle


Start with Maatta/Pouliot/Kapanen and go from there... JvR is like Lucic in that both are seen as immortal gods by their own team.
znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 10.02.2014

Feb 25 @ 9:01 AM ET
Same. I dont think your offer would work though. We need depth and that would remove two bottom six guys. I'd look into that in the offseason though.
- usethe1-2-2


I'd have to agree with you here. They need a center and they also like Bennett and our d prospects. Pouliot is off the table unless it were a straight up swap, but cap wise there is no way.
brienstel
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.21.2011

Feb 25 @ 9:01 AM ET
One of Scuds or Sutter is going back to Toronto otherwise this isn't happening.
Hopefully both. Which I wouldn't rule out considering Toronto will need bodies to play their games during the partial or total rebuild. Sutter and Scuds if nothing else do play a lot of games per year. And for their combined price would fill two positions on a team balancing acquiring pics and prospects with playable NHLers. Harrington is the piece that makes the deal worthwhile for Toronto. And IF Lupul can be healthy makes the deal worthwhile for Pitts (Lupul is good but he averages 50 and isn't getting younger).

Scuderi/Sutter/Harrington for Lupul/Holland.
znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 10.02.2014

Feb 25 @ 9:02 AM ET
Hell no on Lupul.

Two players having miserable years, unproven prospects and a pick is not nearly enough for JVR. Why would they move him anyway? He'd be one of very few players on that team that they should keep.

- madmike71


They are going into a rebuild, they like BB and our D prospects which GMJR says are almost unmovable, which I agree with. They also need a center. A pick also helps the rebuild.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Feb 25 @ 9:04 AM ET
Another soft player for this soft team
- deadmau5


Lupul is not a "soft" hockey player. He gives it his all and gets to the dirty areas. Thats part of the reason he gets injured so much. So yes, he's brittle in that he gets injured but he leaves it all out on the ice.

Also, why are you here? Go back to your Blues blog and write about all your Stanley Cups.

dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Feb 25 @ 9:05 AM ET
I'd have to agree with you here. They need a center and they also like Bennett and our d prospects. Pouliot is off the table unless it were a straight up swap, but cap wise there is no way.
- znagle

I'm very high on Pouliot to but there is no way in hell he's an even swap at this point with JVR. They can have Sutter or Bennett but they wouldn't be the center piece.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Feb 25 @ 9:06 AM ET
Lupul is not a "soft" hockey player. He gives it his all and gets to the dirty areas. Thats part of the reason he gets injured so much. So yes, he's brittle in that he gets injured but he leaves it all out on the ice.

Also, why are you here? Go back to your Blues blog and write about all your Stanley Cups.

- YouMeAndDupuis9

If I recall correctly weren't Lupul's like last 3 injuries inflicted by his own teammates? I agree he's not a soft player in his game he's injury prone. If they Take Sutter or Scuds back I think he makes us a better team
brienstel
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.21.2011

Feb 25 @ 9:07 AM ET
Lupul is not a "soft" hockey player. He gives it his all and gets to the dirty areas. Thats part of the reason he gets injured so much. So yes, he's brittle in that he gets injured but he leaves it all out on the ice.
- YouMeAndDupuis9


Agreed. He is not soft. And he has to play a heavier game that he should on a garbage Toronto team.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Feb 25 @ 9:07 AM ET
They are going into a rebuild, they like BB and our D prospects which GMJR says are almost unmovable, which I agree with. They also need a center. A pick also helps the rebuild.
- znagle


Furthermore from my post above, JvR is on an awesome contract. I think you are underestimating his value.
Conse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rio de Janeiro
Joined: 11.27.2013

Feb 25 @ 9:08 AM ET
I really don't know how we could free up 5M in cap space. Maybe trading both Sutter and Scuderi. But I don't see the penguins parting with either, especially before the Trade deadline. Also, Toronto wouldn't want Scuderi, they are looking for picks or prospects so we would have to free cap space first and than acquire Lupul on a separate trade. Risky.

Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Feb 25 @ 9:09 AM ET
Another soft player for this soft team
- deadmau5



And another report
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Feb 25 @ 9:12 AM ET
If I recall correctly weren't Lupul's like last 3 injuries inflicted by his own teammates? I agree he's not a soft player in his game he's injury prone. If they Take Sutter or Scuds back I think he makes us a better team
- dbell646


Toronto has to take Scuderi or retain 30-50% of Lupul's salary for anything to work so what we would give Toronto would be largely dependent on how the deal is structured. Lupul @ 50% retained is a great bargain, regardless of injuries.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Feb 25 @ 9:14 AM ET
Toronto has to take Scuderi or retain 30-50% of Lupul's salary for anything to work so what we would give Toronto would be largely dependent on how the deal is structured. Lupul @ 50% retained is a great bargain, regardless of injuries.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

And would cost a hell of a lot to acquire him at that rate.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 25 @ 9:15 AM ET
Wow, this wasn't brought up and quickly squashed the other day.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 25 @ 9:16 AM ET
Lupul is not a "soft" hockey player. He gives it his all and gets to the dirty areas. Thats part of the reason he gets injured so much. So yes, he's brittle in that he gets injured but he leaves it all out on the ice.

Also, why are you here? Go back to your Blues blog and write about all your Stanley Cups.

- YouMeAndDupuis9


He has some strange fascination with me and follows me to every blog I visit (check out his info). I appreciate it and all, but it's very creepy how obsessed he is with me.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Feb 25 @ 9:18 AM ET
And would cost a hell of a lot to acquire him at that rate.
- dbell646


Yeah... for every bit of money Toronto holds back or any salary dump they are taking back, that will raise the cost to get him.

Why would they trade him to Pittsburgh if they have to eat money, if they can trade him somewhere else for a comparable return and not have to eat salary?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 25 @ 9:18 AM ET
Lupul is not a "soft" hockey player. He gives it his all and gets to the dirty areas. Thats part of the reason he gets injured so much. So yes, he's brittle in that he gets injured but he leaves it all out on the ice.

Also, why are you here? Go back to your Blues blog and write about all your Stanley Cups.

- YouMeAndDupuis9


He follows me to every blog and has some odd fascination/obsession with me (check out his info). It's very flattering and I appreciate it to an extent, but it's actually very creepy to have a man I've never met become so obsessive with me.

But I agree, Lupul does not play a "soft" game. He gets injured but he plays a game very similar to 2008-era Chris Kunitz, and is surprisingly physical (when healthy).
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